Comments on: Lobbyists Influencing Policy http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934 make it happen Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:13:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: steve http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12714 steve Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:52:19 +0000 http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12714 This silly argument about helping the poor people makes me laugh. I was under the impression that poor have a problem with upfront cash. They are poor cause they have nothing now not because they are going to be poor in the future. I guess I was wrong. Poor people have million of dollars today but will lose over the next ten years. How do they measure that? The government forbids officials from marrying same sex couples. According to your analysis, the state is not telling citizens who they can and can't marry. They are telling the officials marrying couples who they can and can't marry. Stated that way it sure softens up a blatant violation of one groups civil rights. Maybe social conservatives should approach the problem this way. Use the Darwin approved method of forcing values down other peoples throats by being indirect. Class up that anti-libertarian legislation by reducing the group explicitly effected while at the same time enjoy forcing the population to abide by your values. Little surprised Jamie has not already given you shit for you blatant attempt at spinning. This silly argument about helping the poor people makes me laugh. I was under the impression that poor have a problem with upfront cash. They are poor cause they have nothing now not because they are going to be poor in the future. I guess I was wrong. Poor people have million of dollars today but will lose over the next ten years. How do they measure that?

The government forbids officials from marrying same sex couples. According to your analysis, the state is not telling citizens who they can and can’t marry. They are telling the officials marrying couples who they can and can’t marry.

Stated that way it sure softens up a blatant violation of one groups civil rights. Maybe social conservatives should approach the problem this way. Use the Darwin approved method of forcing values down other peoples throats by being indirect. Class up that anti-libertarian legislation by reducing the group explicitly effected while at the same time enjoy forcing the population to abide by your values.

Little surprised Jamie has not already given you shit for you blatant attempt at spinning.

]]> By: darwin http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12681 darwin Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:02:25 +0000 http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12681 BTW, the correct way for the government to handle this is to offer tax incentives to citizens with fuel efficient cars (like many states have doen for hybrid cars), ratehr than through regulation. Better to work with the free market than against it. BTW, the correct way for the government to handle this is to offer tax incentives to citizens with fuel efficient cars (like many states have doen for hybrid cars), ratehr than through regulation. Better to work with the free market than against it.

]]> By: darwin http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12680 darwin Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:00:24 +0000 http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12680 I assume that they can. Otherwise the article would have mentioned the import restrictions. I assume that they can. Otherwise the article would have mentioned the import restrictions.

]]> By: steve http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12674 steve Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:56:09 +0000 http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12674 OH MY GOD. Someone other than me is refuting a commentor's response. Have I died? Is this heaven? OH MY GOD. Someone other than me is refuting a commentor’s response. Have I died? Is this heaven?

]]> By: Dan http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12673 Dan Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:32:52 +0000 http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12673 "And the government isn’t telling people what they can and can’t buy, they’re telling american companies what they can and can’t sell." What is the difference, in practice? Can Americans buy foreign cars that fail to meet these requirements? “And the government isn’t telling people what they can and can’t buy, they’re telling american companies what they can and can’t sell.”

What is the difference, in practice? Can Americans buy foreign cars that fail to meet these requirements?

]]> By: darwin http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12668 darwin Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:46:57 +0000 http://enableate.com/steve/2007/934#comment-12668 Specifically, about 83% of the public support such measures, with only 9% opposing, according to http://www.net.org/fueleconomy/polling.vtml. In a democracy, it's insane that such a huge majority is needed to get anything done, especially when the action that congress finally takes is so very toothless. So yes, 83% popular support is the amount needed to just barely deviate from the lobbyist's demands. That's still a problem for me. BTW, increasing fuel efficiency helps poor people by decreasing the amount of gas they have to buy, as well as driving down gas prices (reduced demand). And the government isn't telling people what they can and can't buy, they're telling american companies what they can and can't sell. Specifically, about 83% of the public support such measures, with only 9% opposing, according to http://www.net.org/fueleconomy/polling.vtml. In a democracy, it’s insane that such a huge majority is needed to get anything done, especially when the action that congress finally takes is so very toothless. So yes, 83% popular support is the amount needed to just barely deviate from the lobbyist’s demands. That’s still a problem for me.

BTW, increasing fuel efficiency helps poor people by decreasing the amount of gas they have to buy, as well as driving down gas prices (reduced demand). And the government isn’t telling people what they can and can’t buy, they’re telling american companies what they can and can’t sell.

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