Comments on: Thats About Right

By: darwin

darwin — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:48:11 +0000

Your point: entrepenuers who invent and refine products won’t do so in a socialistic corporate model because they won’t make money off of those invetions, the workers who produce them will.

My point: they can still make money because intellectual property laws will give them rights over the production of their invention and related royalties, they just won’t own the actual physical products that are produced. So your objection is irrelevant.

By: steve

steve — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:26:35 +0000

Now take your definition and explain how its related to intellectual property and how thats related to my original point.

By: darwin

darwin — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:10:35 +0000

I’ve defined the socialist corporate model like 50 times: everyone who works at a company owns a part of that company, and owns a piece of it’s products/profits, instead of being a paid employee.

What category of products are you talking about which required daring and innovative entrepenuers to come up with, yet wouldn’t be covered by intellectual property laws?

By: steve

steve — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:14:39 +0000

What the fuck is a socialistic corporate model. Seriously just define the term for me.

Additionally, your argument seems to be constrained by the class of products that fall under intellectual property. One should point out that even in the case of intellectual property the owner of said property gets to do what they want with it. Its unclear how that translates into the labor getting a piece of that property.

In fact im baffled, I really have no idea what you are talking about.

By: darwin

darwin — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:14:30 +0000

You propose a benefit of capitalism that wouldn’t be present under a socialistic corporate model. I demonstrate how we could easily keep that benefit under a socialist corporate model. Your argument fails.

That was my point.

By: steve

steve — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:44:31 +0000

Not sure what your point is.

By: darwin

darwin — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:35:58 +0000

You’re overlooking intellectual property laws. Let the guy who comes up with the marketable product have control over who can produce it and what percentage of their sales they have to give him in royalties, sure. That doesn’t mean he has to hire the workers and own hte factory himself. Let him go on innovating if he’s so good at it, instead of tieing him down managing a corporate beauracracy.